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#501 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:28 pm

EarthStormFire wrote:
gkrangers wrote:
EarthStormFire wrote:
gkrangers wrote:They aren't going to fly into the eye right now since its over the mountains...3000-6000 foot peaks.

They'll wait till it gets back over the carribbean sea.


3000-6000 feet is more like hills than mountains.
When you need to fly at 1500 feet to get accurate wind and pressure measurements...then they are like the Alps!


They fly that low, that seems very low to fly. I thought they flew in the top of the clouds.
As low as 500 feet sometimes when trying to find a LLC. As the storm gets stronger, they fly higher. All the way up to 10,000 feet. Just easier to get better surface obs (wind and pressure) when they fly low.
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#502 Postby senorpepr » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:35 pm

EarthStormFire wrote:
gkrangers wrote:
EarthStormFire wrote:
gkrangers wrote:They aren't going to fly into the eye right now since its over the mountains...3000-6000 foot peaks.

They'll wait till it gets back over the carribbean sea.


3000-6000 feet is more like hills than mountains.
When you need to fly at 1500 feet to get accurate wind and pressure measurements...then they are like the Alps!


They fly that low, that seems very low to fly. I thought they flew in the top of the clouds.


No... it's impossible for them to fly above the clouds since they are nearly 65,000ft. (give or take several thousand)

They want to fly as low as they safely can. 1500ft is typical for weaker storms, 5000ft for stronger.
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#503 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:36 pm

senorpepr wrote:
EarthStormFire wrote:
gkrangers wrote:
EarthStormFire wrote:
gkrangers wrote:They aren't going to fly into the eye right now since its over the mountains...3000-6000 foot peaks.

They'll wait till it gets back over the carribbean sea.


3000-6000 feet is more like hills than mountains.
When you need to fly at 1500 feet to get accurate wind and pressure measurements...then they are like the Alps!


They fly that low, that seems very low to fly. I thought they flew in the top of the clouds.


No... it's impossible for them to fly above the clouds since they are nearly 65,000ft. (give or take several thousand)

They want to fly as low as they safely can. 1500ft is typical for weaker storms, 5000ft for stronger.
They would hate to be flying at 1500 feet in a strong storm and get thrown to 500 feet when they hit a bump...
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#504 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:45 pm

Looks like the WP-3 is going to try to sneak in a fix during Dennis' brief overwater excursion...
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#505 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:48 pm

clfenwi wrote:Looks like the WP-3 is going to try to sneak in a fix during Dennis' brief overwater excursion...
Armed with counter-measures. :D
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#506 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:52 pm

gkrangers wrote:
clfenwi wrote:Looks like the WP-3 is going to try to sneak in a fix during Dennis' brief overwater excursion...
Armed with counter-measures. :D


Heh, that would mean sneaking in a real P-3... I recommend taking the offensive with the Harpoon SLAM (Standoff Land Attack Missile)...
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#507 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:54 pm

... but seriously, one is headed in...

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URNT11 KWBC 080318

97779 03184 60232 8480/ 48800 09019 0061/ /8030

RMK NOAA2 0704A DENNIS OB 01 KWBC

DPTD 08/0232Z ETA TO 20.5N 80.3W 05/0450Z
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#508 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:56 pm

Its AF Recon disgused as a NOAA plane. ;)
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#509 Postby clfenwi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:08 am

Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 01
Time: 0318Z
Position: 23.2 North 84.8 West
Flight level: 4880 meters
Flight level winds: 19 knots // 090

Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 02
Time: 0343Z
Position: 21.4 North 85.6 West
Flight level: 4880 meters
Flight level winds: 21 knots // 070

Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 03
Time: 0419Z
Position: 21.0 North 82.9 West
Flight level: 4890 meters
Flight level winds: 23 knots // 030
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#510 Postby senorpepr » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:10 am

Storm Name: DENNIS OB 04 (04L)
Mission Number: 07
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: C
Time: 0440Z
Latitude: 21.1°N
Longitude: 81.3°W
Location: 149 mi SSE of Havana, Cuba
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Unknown
Pressure Altitude: 16000 feet
Flight level wind: NE (50°) @ 31 mph
Temperature: 30°F
Dewpoint: 25°F
Weather: Unknown
D-value: 900 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None


Storm Name: DENNIS OB 05 (04L)
Mission Number: 07
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: C
Time: 0459Z
Latitude: 21.1°N
Longitude: 79.9°W
Location: 207 mi SE of Havana, Cuba
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Unknown
Pressure Altitude: 10100 feet
Flight level wind: NE (40°) @ 43 mph
Temperature: 50°F
Dewpoint: 41°F
Weather: Unknown
700mb height: 10300 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None
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#511 Postby clfenwi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:11 am

(whacked redundant decode)

Ah, there you are senorepr! :D
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#512 Postby gkrangers » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:12 am

Gettin close..might be able to sneak in a vortex before 2AM..if they hold off on the advisory a little.
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#513 Postby clfenwi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:43 am

Observation Number: 06
Time: 0530Z
Position: 20.6 North 79.0 West
Sea Level Pressure: 1002 mb
Surface wind speed and direction: 33 knots // 015
1000 millibar height: 16 meters
1000 millibar winds 34 knots // 015
925 millibar height: 699 meters
925 millibar winds: 56 knots // 030
850 millibar height: 1431 meters
850 millibar winds: 54 knots // 054
700 millibar height: 3075 meters
700 millibar winds: 53 knots // 045

rainband dropsonde
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#514 Postby clfenwi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:52 am

Observation Number: 07
Time: 0540Z
Position: 20.2 North 78.4 West
Sea Level Pressure: 956 mb
Surface wind speed and direction: 18 knots // 195
925 millibar height: 293 meters
925 millibar winds: 18 knots // 210
850 millibar height: 1350 meters
850 millibar winds: 17 knots // 210
700 millibar height: 2712 meters
700 millibar winds: 9 knots // 235

eye dropsonde
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#515 Postby Normandy » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:53 am

Goodness thats all Cuba did to it!!! :eek:
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#516 Postby gkrangers » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:53 am

The pressure up is expected. Normal if an ERC is ongoing...and even if its not an ERC, the western eyewall did get beat up.
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#517 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:54 am

In it appears that it is now getting back what it lost.
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#518 Postby gkrangers » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:54 am

Would expect the 2AM Advisory an second now that they have reached the eye.
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#519 Postby clfenwi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:09 am

Observation number: 10
Time: 0558Z
Position: 20.3 North // 78.5 West
Sea Level Pressure: 968 millibars
Surface wind speed and direction: n/a
925 millibar height: 401 meters
925 millibar winds: 102 knots // 330
850 millibar height: 1380 meters
850 millibar winds: 114 knots // 350
700 millibar height: 2800 meters
700 millibar winds: 87 knots // 035

eyewall dropsonde
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#520 Postby clfenwi » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:16 am



000

URNT12 KWBC 080550

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE

A. 8/0524Z

B. 20 DEG 13 MIN N

78 DEG 19 MIN W

C. 700 MB 2729 M

D. NA

E. NA

F. 038 DEG 119 KT

G. 300 DEG 10 NM

H. 955 MB

I. 13 C/3074 M

J. 17 C/3067 M

K. 13 C/NA

L. CLOSED WALL

M. C15

N. 12345/7

O. 1/2 NM

P. NOAA2 0704A DENNIS OB 08 KWBC

MAX FL WIND 119 KT NW QUAD 08/0522Z

SFMR MAX WINDS 113 KT 300 DEG 9 NM
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