As low as 500 feet sometimes when trying to find a LLC. As the storm gets stronger, they fly higher. All the way up to 10,000 feet. Just easier to get better surface obs (wind and pressure) when they fly low.EarthStormFire wrote:gkrangers wrote:When you need to fly at 1500 feet to get accurate wind and pressure measurements...then they are like the Alps!EarthStormFire wrote:gkrangers wrote:They aren't going to fly into the eye right now since its over the mountains...3000-6000 foot peaks.
They'll wait till it gets back over the carribbean sea.
3000-6000 feet is more like hills than mountains.
They fly that low, that seems very low to fly. I thought they flew in the top of the clouds.
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EarthStormFire wrote:gkrangers wrote:When you need to fly at 1500 feet to get accurate wind and pressure measurements...then they are like the Alps!EarthStormFire wrote:gkrangers wrote:They aren't going to fly into the eye right now since its over the mountains...3000-6000 foot peaks.
They'll wait till it gets back over the carribbean sea.
3000-6000 feet is more like hills than mountains.
They fly that low, that seems very low to fly. I thought they flew in the top of the clouds.
No... it's impossible for them to fly above the clouds since they are nearly 65,000ft. (give or take several thousand)
They want to fly as low as they safely can. 1500ft is typical for weaker storms, 5000ft for stronger.
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They would hate to be flying at 1500 feet in a strong storm and get thrown to 500 feet when they hit a bump...senorpepr wrote:EarthStormFire wrote:gkrangers wrote:When you need to fly at 1500 feet to get accurate wind and pressure measurements...then they are like the Alps!EarthStormFire wrote:gkrangers wrote:They aren't going to fly into the eye right now since its over the mountains...3000-6000 foot peaks.
They'll wait till it gets back over the carribbean sea.
3000-6000 feet is more like hills than mountains.
They fly that low, that seems very low to fly. I thought they flew in the top of the clouds.
No... it's impossible for them to fly above the clouds since they are nearly 65,000ft. (give or take several thousand)
They want to fly as low as they safely can. 1500ft is typical for weaker storms, 5000ft for stronger.
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Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 01
Time: 0318Z
Position: 23.2 North 84.8 West
Flight level: 4880 meters
Flight level winds: 19 knots // 090
Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 02
Time: 0343Z
Position: 21.4 North 85.6 West
Flight level: 4880 meters
Flight level winds: 21 knots // 070
Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 03
Time: 0419Z
Position: 21.0 North 82.9 West
Flight level: 4890 meters
Flight level winds: 23 knots // 030
Observation Number: 01
Time: 0318Z
Position: 23.2 North 84.8 West
Flight level: 4880 meters
Flight level winds: 19 knots // 090
Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 02
Time: 0343Z
Position: 21.4 North 85.6 West
Flight level: 4880 meters
Flight level winds: 21 knots // 070
Plane: NOAA2
Observation Number: 03
Time: 0419Z
Position: 21.0 North 82.9 West
Flight level: 4890 meters
Flight level winds: 23 knots // 030
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Storm Name: DENNIS OB 04 (04L)
Mission Number: 07
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: C
Time: 0440Z
Latitude: 21.1°N
Longitude: 81.3°W
Location: 149 mi SSE of Havana, Cuba
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Unknown
Pressure Altitude: 16000 feet
Flight level wind: NE (50°) @ 31 mph
Temperature: 30°F
Dewpoint: 25°F
Weather: Unknown
D-value: 900 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None
Storm Name: DENNIS OB 05 (04L)
Mission Number: 07
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: C
Time: 0459Z
Latitude: 21.1°N
Longitude: 79.9°W
Location: 207 mi SE of Havana, Cuba
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Unknown
Pressure Altitude: 10100 feet
Flight level wind: NE (40°) @ 43 mph
Temperature: 50°F
Dewpoint: 41°F
Weather: Unknown
700mb height: 10300 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None
Mission Number: 07
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: C
Time: 0440Z
Latitude: 21.1°N
Longitude: 81.3°W
Location: 149 mi SSE of Havana, Cuba
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Unknown
Pressure Altitude: 16000 feet
Flight level wind: NE (50°) @ 31 mph
Temperature: 30°F
Dewpoint: 25°F
Weather: Unknown
D-value: 900 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None
Storm Name: DENNIS OB 05 (04L)
Mission Number: 07
Flight ID: NOAA2
Observation Number: C
Time: 0459Z
Latitude: 21.1°N
Longitude: 79.9°W
Location: 207 mi SE of Havana, Cuba
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Unknown
Pressure Altitude: 10100 feet
Flight level wind: NE (40°) @ 43 mph
Temperature: 50°F
Dewpoint: 41°F
Weather: Unknown
700mb height: 10300 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None
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Observation Number: 06
Time: 0530Z
Position: 20.6 North 79.0 West
Sea Level Pressure: 1002 mb
Surface wind speed and direction: 33 knots // 015
1000 millibar height: 16 meters
1000 millibar winds 34 knots // 015
925 millibar height: 699 meters
925 millibar winds: 56 knots // 030
850 millibar height: 1431 meters
850 millibar winds: 54 knots // 054
700 millibar height: 3075 meters
700 millibar winds: 53 knots // 045
rainband dropsonde
Time: 0530Z
Position: 20.6 North 79.0 West
Sea Level Pressure: 1002 mb
Surface wind speed and direction: 33 knots // 015
1000 millibar height: 16 meters
1000 millibar winds 34 knots // 015
925 millibar height: 699 meters
925 millibar winds: 56 knots // 030
850 millibar height: 1431 meters
850 millibar winds: 54 knots // 054
700 millibar height: 3075 meters
700 millibar winds: 53 knots // 045
rainband dropsonde
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Observation Number: 07
Time: 0540Z
Position: 20.2 North 78.4 West
Sea Level Pressure: 956 mb
Surface wind speed and direction: 18 knots // 195
925 millibar height: 293 meters
925 millibar winds: 18 knots // 210
850 millibar height: 1350 meters
850 millibar winds: 17 knots // 210
700 millibar height: 2712 meters
700 millibar winds: 9 knots // 235
eye dropsonde
Time: 0540Z
Position: 20.2 North 78.4 West
Sea Level Pressure: 956 mb
Surface wind speed and direction: 18 knots // 195
925 millibar height: 293 meters
925 millibar winds: 18 knots // 210
850 millibar height: 1350 meters
850 millibar winds: 17 knots // 210
700 millibar height: 2712 meters
700 millibar winds: 9 knots // 235
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Observation number: 10
Time: 0558Z
Position: 20.3 North // 78.5 West
Sea Level Pressure: 968 millibars
Surface wind speed and direction: n/a
925 millibar height: 401 meters
925 millibar winds: 102 knots // 330
850 millibar height: 1380 meters
850 millibar winds: 114 knots // 350
700 millibar height: 2800 meters
700 millibar winds: 87 knots // 035
eyewall dropsonde
Time: 0558Z
Position: 20.3 North // 78.5 West
Sea Level Pressure: 968 millibars
Surface wind speed and direction: n/a
925 millibar height: 401 meters
925 millibar winds: 102 knots // 330
850 millibar height: 1380 meters
850 millibar winds: 114 knots // 350
700 millibar height: 2800 meters
700 millibar winds: 87 knots // 035
eyewall dropsonde
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URNT12 KWBC 080550
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 8/0524Z
B. 20 DEG 13 MIN N
78 DEG 19 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2729 M
D. NA
E. NA
F. 038 DEG 119 KT
G. 300 DEG 10 NM
H. 955 MB
I. 13 C/3074 M
J. 17 C/3067 M
K. 13 C/NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C15
N. 12345/7
O. 1/2 NM
P. NOAA2 0704A DENNIS OB 08 KWBC
MAX FL WIND 119 KT NW QUAD 08/0522Z
SFMR MAX WINDS 113 KT 300 DEG 9 NM
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