Question about historical storm tracks?

#1 Postby **micktooth** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:51 pm

I enjoy looking at old storm tracks especially from wunderground and the like. But I was wondering, how in the earth do we know the exact track of the storms? There were no satellites and there couldn't be ship reports for every storm. Some storms formed way out in the Atlantic and their tracks are very interesting. So how do we really know that these are close to the exact tracks that these older storms took?

TheShrimper · #2 Postby **TheShrimper** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:22 pm

Being truthfull, we dont.

#3 Postby **WeatherEmperor** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:37 pm

I dont think we will ever truly know.

<RICKY>

Astro_man92 · #4 Postby **Astro_man92** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:55 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:I dont think we will ever truly know.

<RICKY>

unless we
1.-build a time machine

2.-go back to the year 1933

3.-set up that new satillite that we've been working on

4.-put it into orbit

5.- leave some people behind to operate the equipment (or go to v. 2)

6.-and gather the info

v.2 from 5.

5.- go back to the future

6.- go up into space and retreive the info

ya that will definitly work

kevin · #5 Postby **kevin** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:58 pm

There were A LOT, of ships.

Astro_man92 · #6 Postby **Astro_man92** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:03 pm

kevin wrote:There were A LOT, of ships.

i mean to get the unreported ones and get exact tracks

#7 Postby **WeatherEmperor** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:05 pm

Astro_man92 wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:I dont think we will ever truly know.

<RICKY>

unless we
1.-build a time machine

2.-go back to the year 1933

3.-set up that new satillite that we've been working on

4.-put it into orbit

5.- leave some people behind to operate the equipment (or go to v. 2)

6.-and gather the info

v.2 from 5.

5.- go back to the future

6.- go up into space and retreive the info

ya that will definitly work

that would be nice. lol

<RICKY>

kevin · #8 Postby **kevin** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:06 pm

Well you wouldn't get an exact track, but I doubt there were many unreported storms. I mean the volume of trade between the Americas and Europe was enormous. You have ships in the Caribbean, ships coming from South America, ships from American ports. *shrugs* I'm not an expert so who knows?

#9 Postby **MGC** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:18 pm

Ever been in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean Kevin? I have and it is desolate. Not a ship in sight. I made the crossing on an aircraft carrier in the early 90's. No, not many ships other than the ones attached to the task force. I imagine back in the 20's and 30's there were even less ships......MGC

mahicks · #10 Postby **mahicks** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:23 pm

MGC wrote:Ever been in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean Kevin? I have and it is desolate. Not a ship in sight. I made the crossing on an aircraft carrier in the early 90's. No, not many ships other than the ones attached to the task force. I imagine back in the 20's and 30's there were even less ships......MGC

"NFI"....Actually..........The amount of ships traversing the globe were at a MUCH higher count than there is now. This was the ONLY way to get imports/exports from/to the US.

Astro_man92 · #11 Postby **Astro_man92** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:53 pm

mahicks wrote:
MGC wrote:Ever been in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean Kevin? I have and it is desolate. Not a ship in sight. I made the crossing on an aircraft carrier in the early 90's. No, not many ships other than the ones attached to the task force. I imagine back in the 20's and 30's there were even less ships......MGC

"NFI"....Actually..........The amount of ships traversing the globe were at a MUCH higher count than there is now. This was the ONLY way to get imports/exports from/to the US.

now we have airplanes to do the dirty work lol

Swimdude · #12 Postby **Swimdude** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:38 pm

In other words... We don't know, and never will? =/

#13 Postby **EDR1222** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:39 pm

We definately will never know how many storms formed back in the early days, or even the exact tracks they followed, especially when they were far out at sea.

Jim Cantore · #14 Postby **Jim Cantore** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:24 pm

We'll have a time machine by November 29st 2031 :lol:

#15 Postby **micktooth** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:56 pm

So then what's the deal on wunderground and the other historical sites? Is it just bunk? How about we create our own Storm 2K historical archives! We can make up our own tracks and then say that there sure were some bad a** storms back then

Astro_man92 · #16 Postby **Astro_man92** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:33 am

Hurricane Floyd wrote:We'll have a time machine by November 29st 2031

y that far??

Astro_man92 · #17 Postby **Astro_man92** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:35 am

micktooth wrote:So then what's the deal on wunderground and the other historical sites? Is it just bunk? How about we create our own Storm 2K historical archives! We can make up our own tracks and then say that there sure were some bad a** storms back then

ya that would be cool put that idea in this thread
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=68954

Hurricaneman · #18 Postby **Hurricaneman** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:36 am

Its just a guessing game

bahamaswx · #19 Postby **bahamaswx** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:21 am

micktooth wrote:So then what's the deal on wunderground and the other historical sites? Is it just bunk? How about we create our own Storm 2K historical archives! We can make up our own tracks and then say that there sure were some bad a** storms back then

Don't get the wrong idea. It's not just some made up archives, or a guessing-game by any means. We have a rough idea of the areas traversed by the storms, and their general intensity at the time. Granted, strange tracks like loops in the middle of the ocean would often be missed, but otherwise there are only so many paths from point A to point B.

Astro_man92 · #20 Postby **Astro_man92** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:53 am

bahamaswx wrote:
micktooth wrote:So then what's the deal on wunderground and the other historical sites? Is it just bunk? How about we create our own Storm 2K historical archives! We can make up our own tracks and then say that there sure were some bad a** storms back then

Don't get the wrong idea. It's not just some made up archives, or a guessing-game by any means. We have a rough idea of the areas traversed by the storms, and their general intensity at the time. Granted, strange tracks like loops in the middle of the ocean would often be missed, but otherwise there are only so many paths from point A to point B.

You are right and here thay also have a hurricane arcive for this mellenium not including 2000

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