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#1401 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:41 pm

thanks...ivanhater thats just because that convection is rotating aroung the center...the sat pic will play mind tricks with ya...lol
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#1402 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:42 pm

deltadog03 wrote:thanks...ivanhater thats just because that convection is rotating aroung the center...the sat pic will play mind tricks with ya...lol



lol, thats what i mean...it LOOKS wnw because of the convection....i think its pretty much west
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#1403 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:43 pm

its hard sometimes with these systems...i would say no more than 275
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#1404 Postby superfly » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:44 pm

I think it's going just N of W, around 275-280.
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#1405 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:45 pm

deltadog03 wrote:its hard sometimes with these systems...i would say no more than 275



ya, im still trying to find that darn center...i think its a little farther south than the nhc fix, which they even said in their discussion it might be
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#1406 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:46 pm

Trying to find a center is gonna give me a heart attack.

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#1407 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:46 pm

lol...me too..im gonna try to make a new map and forecast soon
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#1408 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:48 pm

I think it has slowed in reaction to meeting the troughy remnant border left behind by the last trough, but also in front of the next one. This slow down should let that next trough over the US push further east causing Irene to recurve, if it isn't doing that already. Poleward is the word in weakness.

Now the mid-level swirl is in the NW quadrant!
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#1409 Postby baygirl_1 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:48 pm

Looking at the entire blob that is Irene, I think she's still moving west. It's still too hard to pick out a center, at least for my very untrained eyes. She is one tenacious storm: even with the moderate northerly shear on the west side (see the water vapor loop: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float2-wv-loop.html), she's still has growing convection and pretty decent outflow.
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#1410 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:49 pm

hmmm, take a look at this and put on the nhc forecast points and look to the southwest of it, could that be the center.....this is gonna take a team effort, lol
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#1411 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:51 pm

TROPICAL DEPRESSION IRENE (AL092005) ON 20050810 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
050810 1800 050811 0600 050811 1800 050812 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 22.5N 58.0W 23.3N 60.2W 24.3N 62.4W 25.2N 64.5W
BAMM 22.5N 58.0W 23.2N 60.4W 24.0N 62.7W 24.9N 64.8W
A98E 22.5N 58.0W 22.8N 59.6W 23.5N 61.6W 24.6N 63.7W
LBAR 22.5N 58.0W 22.9N 59.8W 23.7N 61.6W 24.5N 63.5W
SHIP 30KTS 36KTS 42KTS 49KTS
DSHP 30KTS 36KTS 42KTS 49KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
050812 1800 050813 1800 050814 1800 050815 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 26.2N 66.5W 28.0N 69.9W 30.1N 73.0W 32.5N 75.1W
BAMM 25.8N 66.6W 27.2N 69.7W 28.5N 72.6W 30.0N 75.2W
A98E 25.6N 66.1W 27.6N 71.0W 29.3N 74.7W 31.6N 75.7W
LBAR 25.4N 65.1W 27.0N 68.2W 28.7N 70.9W 29.2N 72.9W
SHIP 55KTS 62KTS 63KTS 63KTS
DSHP 55KTS 62KTS 63KTS 63KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 22.5N LONCUR = 58.0W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 7KT
LATM12 = 22.3N LONM12 = 56.5W DIRM12 = 270DEG SPDM12 = 7KT
LATM24 = 22.4N LONM24 = 54.8W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1007MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM


18:00z Model Guidance.
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#1412 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:53 pm

18Z model guidance looks in better agreement with the NHC forecast track.

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#1413 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:54 pm

i think it shows the bend back to west again?? at the end?
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#1414 Postby Brent » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:55 pm

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#1415 Postby gkrangers » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:55 pm

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Bit of a west shift in the track. Tightly clustered around the NHC track.
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#1416 Postby wxwatcher91 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:55 pm

I have to say I'm surprised that they dont have it up to 35kts... she isnt looking too bad... is there still a chance that the NHC will upgrade her to a TS at 5 or will they follow the models?

ok and one last thing WHERE IS RECON????
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#1417 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:56 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:I have to say I'm surprised that they dont have it up to 35kts... she isnt looking too bad... is there still a chance that the NHC will upgrade her to a TS at 5 or will they follow the models?

ok and one last thing WHERE IS RECON????


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#1418 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:56 pm

im going to find that center if its the last thing i do!!!!
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#1419 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:57 pm

ivanhater wrote:hmmm, take a look at this and put on the nhc forecast points and look to the southwest of it, could that be the center.....this is gonna take a team effort, lol
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


Looks to me like whatever center there is is right under the convection or at least on the South side of the convection.
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#1420 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:57 pm

it isnt being upgraded because it hasn't become any better organized. It is still embedded within the SAL
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