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#1 Postby senorpepr » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:37 am

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#2 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:42 am

Doe's not sound good. Why on earth is are goverment turning to miss around with the weather? One mistake then who knows what could happen. This is one thing that should be left alone. More pork!!!
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#3 Postby senorpepr » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:47 am

Well... I do see how the project can be of benefit. Cloud seeding can help turn cumulus and towering cumulus into rain producers which can be very good for our farmers, especially those in drought conditions. In return, every one wins with lower produce prices.

Plus, this project is, at least, going to have a lot of say by NOAA personnel.

If applied properly, this project can really be a good thing.
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#4 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:55 am

As long as it sticks to small scale rain making I'm ok with it.
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#5 Postby BUD » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:03 am

Also, HAARP is now online and working now.Type it into any search engine and get alot of info.
Also,this bill has the seeding program back up for hurricanes.
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#6 Postby weatherwindow » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:47 am

what is this stormfury 2?......didnt work then, wont work now.....rich.......
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#7 Postby senorpepr » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:05 pm

weatherwindow wrote:what is this stormfury 2?......didnt work then, wont work now.....rich.......


My understanding is this isn't like Stormfury where they seeding hurricanes. This project is to be more board to include rain reduction for flood-plagued areas and rain production for drought-plagued areas.
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#8 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:10 pm

If they start out on a small scale then they could build on it and try on a bigger scale! At some point they COULD turn it into a weapon! I am not saying they will but the possiblity is there!
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#9 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:12 pm

I say use it only to make rain then no farther. I'm against larger scale.
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#10 Postby senorpepr » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:32 pm

JamesFromMaine2 wrote:If they start out on a small scale then they could build on it and try on a bigger scale! At some point they COULD turn it into a weapon! I am not saying they will but the possiblity is there!


Well... they've been doing that for years. In combat, during foggy conditions, the enemy can take cover with the reduced visibilities. Fog dispersal via cloud seeding and/or artifical heating reduces the fog, thus increasing the visibility -- which makes it harder for the enemy.

Also, the process can be reversed under the right conditions. The artifical creation of fog can help protect our troops by creating cover.

Furthermore, weather modification can be a benefit when a shamal is forecast. (This is a big item for those deployed to the Middle East). When these winds are forecast, cloud seeding can help to create precip which will weigh down the desert sand. Therefore, when the shamal does occur, less sand is transported which increasing visibility (see above for the benefits of increased visibility) and reduces the amount of sand that gets into our troops' equipment therefore reducing damage and malfunctions while translate to less GI lives lost.

For many years there has been talk about modifying weather during combat.
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#11 Postby P.K. » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:42 pm

senorpepr wrote:Fog dispersal via cloud seeding and/or artifical heating reduces the fog, thus increasing the visibility -- which makes it harder for the enemy.


Depends how it is down though. It was done during WW2 by buring hydrocarbons and did clear the fog but afterwards the extra water vapour made the fog even thicker.

As long as they don't do what they do in France and fire rockets into clouds to try to break up hail despite there being no evidence, either mathematically or by experiments, that it actually works.
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