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#381 Postby RattleMan » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:50 pm
05/0300z, final for Polo.
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.59%
BT Bertha 28.4 21.72%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.88%
Dolly 5.3125 4.06%
Edouard 1.5275 1.17%
Fay 6.715 5.13%
Gustav 18.455 14.11%
Hanna 10.32 7.89%
Ike 38.245 29.24%
Josephine 2.79 2.13%
Kyle 4.3725 3.34%
Laura 0.8625 0.66%
Marco 1.21 0.93%
Nana 0.3675 0.28%
Omar 7.67 5.86%
TOTAL 130.785
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 47.8075
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#382 Postby Aslkahuna » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:01 pm
Go to
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/ for a discussion of the total ACE for the entire Northern Hemisphere which is very much below climo for early November. Not only EPAC but also WPAC have been very low in ACE.
Steve
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#383 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:08 pm
Aslkahuna wrote:Go to
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/ for a discussion of the total ACE for the entire Northern Hemisphere which is very much below climo for early November. Not only EPAC but also WPAC have been very low in ACE.
Steve
I know the Pacific was in a La Nina phase, which makes it less active. Also, I think PDO is in a cooler phase too.
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#384 Postby Aslkahuna » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:27 am
EPAC is usually lower in activity during ENSO cold phases (and/or -PDO) but the low activity numbers for WPAC are not so easy to explain.
Steve
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#385 Postby RattleMan » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:42 am
06/0900z:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.59%
BT Bertha 28.4 21.69%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.88%
Dolly 5.3125 4.06%
Edouard 1.5275 1.17%
Fay 6.715 5.13%
Gustav 18.455 14.10%
Hanna 10.32 7.88%
Ike 38.245 29.22%
Josephine 2.79 2.13%
Kyle 4.3725 3.34%
Laura 0.8625 0.66%
Marco 1.21 0.92%
Nana 0.3675 0.28%
Omar 7.67 5.86%
Paloma 0.1225 0.09%
TOTAL 130.9075
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 47.93
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#386 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:14 am
ACE numbers updated as of the 10 AM EST advisory of Paloma at 40 kts.
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Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 0.2825
Total 131.0675
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#387 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:25 pm
Updated ACE numbers for the Atlantic 2008 season as of the 4 PM EST advisory of Paloma at 55 kts.
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Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 0.5850
Total 131.37
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#388 Postby RattleMan » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:17 pm
07/0300z:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.59%
BT Bertha 28.4 21.55%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.86%
Dolly 5.3125 4.03%
Edouard 1.5275 1.16%
Fay 6.715 5.10%
Gustav 18.455 14.00%
Hanna 10.32 7.83%
Ike 38.245 29.02%
Josephine 2.79 2.12%
Kyle 4.3725 3.32%
Laura 0.8625 0.65%
Marco 1.21 0.92%
Nana 0.3675 0.28%
Omar 7.67 5.82%
Paloma 1.0075 0.76%
TOTAL 131.7925
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 48.815
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#389 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:39 am
Updated ACE numbers at 4 AM EST advisory of Paloma at 70 kts.
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Season total
Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 1.4975
Total Season total
Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 1.4975
Total 132.2825
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#390 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:12 am
Updated ACE numbers as of the 10 AM EST advisory of Paloma at 75 kts.
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Season total
Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 2.0600
Total 132.845
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#391 Postby RattleMan » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:08 pm
07/2100z:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.58%
BT Bertha 28.4 21.25%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.82%
Dolly 5.3125 3.97%
Edouard 1.5275 1.14%
Fay 6.715 5.02%
Gustav 18.455 13.81%
Hanna 10.32 7.72%
Ike 38.245 28.61%
Josephine 2.79 2.09%
Kyle 4.3725 3.27%
Laura 0.8625 0.65%
Marco 1.21 0.91%
Nana 0.3675 0.27%
Omar 7.67 5.74%
Paloma 2.87 2.15%
TOTAL 133.655
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 50.6775
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#392 Postby RattleMan » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:06 pm
08/0300z:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.57%
BT Bertha 28.4 21.09%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.80%
Dolly 5.3125 3.95%
Edouard 1.5275 1.13%
Fay 6.715 4.99%
Gustav 18.455 13.71%
Hanna 10.32 7.66%
Ike 38.245 28.40%
Josephine 2.79 2.07%
Kyle 4.3725 3.25%
Laura 0.8625 0.64%
Marco 1.21 0.90%
Nana 0.3675 0.27%
Omar 7.67 5.70%
Paloma 3.87 2.87%
TOTAL 134.655
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 51.6775
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#393 Postby cycloneye » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:09 am
Updated Atlantic ACE numbers as of the 10 AM EST advisory of Paloma at 120 kts.
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Season total
Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 6.5200
Total 137.305
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#394 Postby RattleMan » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:58 pm
08/2100z:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.56%
BT Bertha 28.4 20.45%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.71%
Dolly 5.3125 3.83%
Edouard 1.5275 1.10%
Fay 6.715 4.84%
Gustav 18.455 13.29%
Hanna 10.32 7.43%
Ike 38.245 27.54%
Josephine 2.79 2.01%
Kyle 4.3725 3.15%
Laura 0.8625 0.62%
Marco 1.21 0.87%
Nana 0.3675 0.26%
Omar 7.67 5.52%
Paloma 8.0825 5.82%
TOTAL 138.8675
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 55.89
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#395 Postby cycloneye » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:39 pm
Updated ACE numbers as of the 10 PM EST advisory of Paloma at 100kts.
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Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 9.0825
Total 139.8675
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#396 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:40 am
Updated Atlantic ACE numbers as of the 4 AM EST advisory of Paloma at 75 kts.
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Season total
Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 9.6450
Total 140.43
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#397 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:12 am
Updated Atlantic ACE numbers as of the 10 AM EST advisory of Paloma at 50 kts.
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Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Best track 0.7725
02L (Bertha) Best track 28.4000
03L (Cristobal) Best track 3.7650
04L (Dolly) Operational 5.3125
05L (Edouard) Operational 1.5275
06L (Fay) Operational 6.7150
07L (Gustav) Operational 18.4550
08L (Hanna) Operational 10.3200
09L (Ike) Operational 38.2450
10L (Josephine) Operational 2.7900
11L (Kyle) Operational 4.3725
12L (Laura) Operational 0.8625
13L (Marco) Operational 1.2100
14L (Nana) Operational 0.3675
15L (Omar) Operational 7.6700
16L (NONAME) Operational 0.0000
17L (Paloma) Operational 9.8950
Total 140.68
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#398 Postby RattleMan » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:59 pm
09/2100z, final ACE for now:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.55%
BT Bertha 28.4 20.19%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.68%
Dolly 5.3125 3.78%
Edouard 1.5275 1.09%
Fay 6.715 4.77%
Gustav 18.455 13.12%
Hanna 10.32 7.34%
Ike 38.245 27.19%
Josephine 2.79 1.98%
Kyle 4.3725 3.11%
Laura 0.8625 0.61%
Marco 1.21 0.86%
Nana 0.3675 0.26%
Omar 7.67 5.45%
Paloma 9.895 7.03%
TOTAL 140.68
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.25%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.80%
Fausto 10.125 12.20%
Genevieve 5.76 6.94%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.64%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.30%
Lowell 2.445 2.95%
Marie 4.935 5.95%
Norbert 19.3525 23.32%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 82.9775
Atlantic leads by 57.7025
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#399 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:09 pm
The ACE numbers for the Atlantic will stay at 140.68 after Paloma was downgraded to a TD.With the 2008 season numbers at 16/8/5 and the ACE numbers over 140,I believe that this has been an hyperactive season.I know that some may disagree but that is what I think about this season in terms of tropical net activity.
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#400 Postby RattleMan » Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:42 am
Update per Edouard, Marco, and Marie TCRs:
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Atlantic % of
Seasonal ACE Total
BT Arthur 0.7725 0.55%
BT Bertha 28.4 20.15%
BT Cristobal 3.765 2.67%
Dolly 5.3125 3.77%
BT Edouard 1.6975 1.20%
Fay 6.715 4.76%
Gustav 18.455 13.09%
Hanna 10.32 7.32%
Ike 38.245 27.13%
Josephine 2.79 1.98%
Kyle 4.3725 3.10%
Laura 0.8625 0.61%
BT Marco 1.3175 0.93%
Nana 0.3675 0.26%
Omar 7.67 5.44%
Paloma 9.895 7.02%
TOTAL 140.9575
East Pacific
Seasonal ACE
BT Alma 0.83 1.00%
BT Boris 7.675 9.24%
Cristina 1.21 1.46%
BT Douglas 0.6125 0.74%
BT Elida 11.45 13.78%
Fausto 10.125 12.19%
Genevieve 5.76 6.93%
BT Hernan 12.145 14.62%
Iselle 1.295 1.56%
Julio 1.1775 1.42%
BT Karina 0.245 0.29%
Lowell 2.445 2.94%
BT Marie 5.045 6.07%
Norbert 19.3525 23.29%
Odile 2.74 3.30%
Polo 0.98 1.18%
TOTAL 83.0875
Atlantic leads by 57.87
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