2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#861 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:52 am

Euro 00z is starting to join the GFS on a potential CAG setup, watching the week of the 16-18th closely
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#862 Postby DunedinDave » Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:22 am

All the models seem to want to cook something in the western Gulf, whether it’s coming from the Caribbean, or in the ICON’s run, forming in the central gulf and kicking east. Definitely looks to be setting up some big rains in the Tampa area.
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#863 Postby caneman » Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:04 am

DunedinDave wrote:All the models seem to want to cook something in the western Gulf, whether it’s coming from the Caribbean, or in the ICON’s run, forming in the central gulf and kicking east. Definitely looks to be setting up some big rains in the Tampa area.


Anyone have any model links they can post on this feature? Thanks
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#864 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:08 am

After the models failed with 91L, I wont believe anything from them until there is a robust wave on the virge to be a TD. Wont believe even with many ensemble lines from whatever model are over PR. I know the pattern will be better in the next few weeks but still that 91L epic fail on them gives me pause.
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#865 Postby Hayabusa » Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:20 am

cycloneye wrote:After the models failed with 91L, I wont believe anything from them until there is a robust wave on the virge to be a TD. Wont believe even with many ensemble lines from whatever model are over PR. I know the pattern will be better in the next few weeks but still that 91L epic fail on them gives me pause.

Just like in the west pac lots of hypes this year that failed :lol:
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#866 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Sep 06, 2025 11:39 am

Lots of season left, all it takes is one storm to hit the US, the difference with 91L here is the amount of sinking air across the basin as seen by the lack of convection basin wide whoch was going, the next MJO passage should give a big boost to the atlantic , models will wake up eventually
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#867 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 06, 2025 11:56 am

This last invest is just another reminder to proceed cautiously with the models especially the GFS and especially beyond 7 days. It's easy to look at 10, 12+ day model runs and think of the possibilities. Yet again the GFS hits Florida with a modelcane in the long-range. On social media you see many posts, even from some experienced meteorologists, talking about Gabrielle like it was going to at least become a tropical storm. It shows we rely so much on these models, though the GFS and even a few runs of the Euro even busted in the less than 168 hour range. Actually, the Euro AI model did quite well this time really never showing development.
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#868 Postby LarryWx » Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:25 pm

The GEFS remains fairly active 9/13+ in the W Car/Gulf and this is during a progged continued favorable MJO.
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#869 Postby Nimbus » Sat Sep 06, 2025 2:33 pm

caneman wrote:
DunedinDave wrote:All the models seem to want to cook something in the western Gulf, whether it’s coming from the Caribbean, or in the ICON’s run, forming in the central gulf and kicking east. Definitely looks to be setting up some big rains in the Tampa area.


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Both the ICON and GFS have the tail end of the front closing off into a low Monday.
Its happening now so worth watching the surface pressures at the buoys in the area.
Practically no convection yet.

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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#870 Postby DunedinDave » Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:12 pm

caneman wrote:
DunedinDave wrote:All the models seem to want to cook something in the western Gulf, whether it’s coming from the Caribbean, or in the ICON’s run, forming in the central gulf and kicking east. Definitely looks to be setting up some big rains in the Tampa area.


Anyone have any model links they can post on this feature? Thanks


Not as good with the copy/paste as others. I’m too old school. But the latest Euro hints at it. I’m not saying they’re predicting anything big…but they do show a lot of unsettled weather in the western Gulf in 7-10 days time. ICON and GFS hinted at a low earlier but backed off. But the Euro has been pretty consistent the last few runs with just showing a lot of moisture sitting in the western GOA down the road.

https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.ph ... &dpdt=&mc=
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Re: 2025 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#871 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:19 pm

With the GEFS/ EPS potentially stalling the MJO in phases 8/1, id definitely be watching the western caribbean or GOA more over the next 10-12 days , Euro shows a ton of tropical moisture being pulled and kind of just festering in the GOA in the 10 day range, nothing big on ensembles or models yet, but worth watching as the MJO should enhance convection in the western half of the atlantic basin
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